What is better to learn to end a fight, Jujitsu or Mixed Martial Arts?
Posted by admin on Oct 11, 2008 in Martial Arts |
thenewgamesource asked:
I pretty much want to learn a style of fighting that will let me end a fight in about 60 seconds if I ever found myself in that situation. I’ve been watching Gracie/Brazillian Jujitsu videos on youtube and I’m almost sold on it, but MMA is pretty big where I’m at, they even have tournaments every 3 days promoting that style.
I pretty much want to learn a style of fighting that will let me end a fight in about 60 seconds if I ever found myself in that situation. I’ve been watching Gracie/Brazillian Jujitsu videos on youtube and I’m almost sold on it, but MMA is pretty big where I’m at, they even have tournaments every 3 days promoting that style.
Advice would be welcome.
Rock Bands
Gracie jujitsu is a good grappling art to learn, but it focuses on only one range of fighting distance. That being the ground range. MMA focuses on all fighting distances whether it be punching, kicking, infighting or grappling range. Don’t focus on just one thing. Many jujitsu practitioners (including the Gracies) have had their butts handed to them with this one dimensional thinking.
You mean in a real fight, or UFC?
A real fight i’d have to say learn Krav Maga.
MMA obviously, bigger repertiore.
alright jujitsu would keep you limited to a ground attack while MMA would give both stand up and a ground attack. you would probably still win against a straight street fighter with jujitsu but MMA would make it a lot easier.
well MMA is not a style in itself MMa is a combo os style hint mixed muay thai boxing wretsling BJJ judo so fourth are all used in MMA
I’m going to assume that you mean in a real fight and not in UFC or any kind of tournament style fighting. There’s a huge difference between martial arts as a sport and self defence.
Juijitsu and just about all other martial arts have rules. There are no rules on the streets.
I will suggest that you learn a strong stand up style and a strong ground style. (I personally thing that Jujitsu is one of the best ground styles out there.)
Then take them both and throw out all the rules. Add eye gouging, pinching, kicking the groins, hits to the throat, hits to the joints, add Judo throws, biting, and things like that, and you’ll have yourself a quick way to end any fight.
Learn the mechanics and functions of human anatomy and know where it hurts and what hurts.
I’d also suggest reading some Bruce Lee books. Tao of Jeet Kune Do is one of the most thorough work out books out there. Bruce Lee books are one of the best as far as breaking techniques and real life situations into mechanics goes.
Once you’ve learned these things, let your natural instinct as an animal take over and don’t think during fights. Moving on impulse is one of the best things you can do for yourself. If your instincts tell you to run away from a fight, then run away. If it tells you to hit, then hit. It’ll keep you alive.
Jujitsu is a great sport. MMA includes jujitsu. MMA is not a martial art. MMA is a mixture of all skills.
As an overall style, MMA would of course give you more tools to use from several distances and defense zones even though most street fights have a tendency to end up as close grappling situations where judo shines as extremely effective. The key is to find a well balanced and capable instructor since MMA is only a framework and the actual value as a defensive style is based on the quality of instruction.
From a larger perspective, unless you are in a life position that puts you in unavoidable self defense situations with a greater than average frequency, like security, the military or law enforcement, the chances of your actually having to resort to using the training in that way is relatively remote. Training in any traditional martial art with dedication and commitment would give you sufficient self defense capability as well as many other benefits to development of spirit allowing you to excel in many aspects of life and as a side benefit perhaps avoid many confrontations to begin with.
first off BJJ is part of MMA. MMA stands for mixed martial arts and incorporates different styles of martial arts, such as BJJ, muay thai kickboxing, boxing, wrestling, karate, etc etc. so if you wanna learn just one style pick one, if you wanna learn MMA then join a gym that does MMA.
They are both great if you are dealing with a single assailant. But in multiples you are toast no matter which one you choose. Anything that depends on going to the ground to get chokes and leverage for bars leaves you vulnerable when dealing with more than one opponent.
BJJ is just one way to end a fight, a good one, but just one, MMA is all the ways to end a fight, the best ones, you need everything to could survive in this sport, muay - thai, BJJ, karate, judo, kick boxing, sambo, wrestling, gymnastics, what i mean is that you can to end a fight in 60 seconds with a submission in BJJ, but also you can do it with a high kick, or with an uppercut, or with a slam, or an elbow and those options you couldn’t find them in just BJJ.
every style works. i’ve taken judo, grappling, kick boxing, karate, and wrestling for my whole life. i haven’t found one style to be better than another. i do know this though. ju jitsu has become very popular in the recent years and all those moves are becoming common knowledge with the average fighter. i’d advise taking a style that’s not so popular. it’s hard to fight an unknown enemy.
Firstly, there are no guarantees anything is going to end a conflict in 60 seconds. I’m a pretty competent, well rounded, experienced self-defense individual and I would never contemplate thinking of a physical engagement in those terms. There are way too many factors that influence such engagements to ever hope of achieving that 60 second dream.
If you are truly looking for that type of skill, then you’d better be prepared for about 15 to 30 years of training from this moment forward in a number of varied disciplines and styles (i.e. real mixed martial arts experience.) Even then, much depends on you, the situation and the opponent.
I would therefore say your preconceived notion of what is possible is flawed rationally. Much better to learn the skills that will allow you to avoid the conflict, de-escalate the conflict if it occurs, or have a variety of concepts available to you if you just cant avoid getting physical.
In direct answer to your question - what you think of as MMA is a competitive model and not a martial art in its own right, although many MMA schools are opening up to teach willing candidates how to compete in that limited and controlled enviornment. Will training in that type of MAA environment help you achieve your goal….sure, to some degree - but it will focus on what you should expect to face in an MAA match, and that will only cover perhaps 30% of what you may face on the street.
Would Jiu-jitsu then help you to achieve your goal…..sure, to some degree - but it will not guarantee you the success you seek. Much will depend on your skills, ability, committment, and willingness to devote yourself to the study and the art.
Truth is, there is no magic pill anyone can take to make them invincible. It takes one hell of a lot of work, effort, sweat, pain, and disappointment to come even close to what you are hoping for. If you are up to it, go for it and good luck to you.
Ken C
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I would go with a gappling style because all you would have to do is throw them to the ground and then walk away. Some grappling styles are Judo, Jujitsu, And Brazilian Jujitsu.